Re: What about Ott and Tsarion is “bad”?
The following opinions are QUALIFIED because both men are new to me.
So is Lauren Moret, another conspiracy researcher you mentioned.
I’ve taken two days to ponder your question and review their ideas because it’s important.
All three – Tsarion, Ott, and Moret – are highly intelligent yet offer major distortions.
They are major diversions from the actual issues.
The best way to separate the wheat from the chaff is to read widely.
Cast a wide net, and read everything you can from …
(a) the Extreme Right,
(b) the Extreme Left,
(c) the Extreme Middle, and
(d) all the Shades of Gray in between.
Besides reading books ABOUT historical people, read books BY them as well, especially any BANNED writings you can locate.
Winnowing the wheat from the chaff often bolts out the flour instead of the dust and the dross.
David Coady wrote …
“The errors of excessive willingness and excessive unwillingness to believe conspiracy theories correspond to two epistemic vices, which I have called ‘paranoia’ and ‘naivety’ respectively. I call the virtue that consists in the avoidance of both of these vices ‘realism.'”
(1) Michael Tsarion …
I tend to agree with what edelweiss pirate posted about Tsarion on David Icke’s Website …
“He presents well, is articulate and intelligent, but for some reason, he insists on talking nonsense and hoping people won’t notice.”
This was in response to what David Icke wrote …
“I sorta kinda want to believe M. Tsarion but you know what? As soon as he starts talking about the book of Enoch and quoting from the bible, giving new interpretations of ancient texts, I realize that he is one of them. When the book of Enoch refers to the “daughters of darkness” as being the mothers of man, which in itself undermines the validity of quotes taken from genesis, I realize that he is doing his best to make conspiracy theory another religion.”
I’d like to read Michael Tsarion’s two volumes of The Irish Origins of Civilization, 2007.
It’s exactly opposite Godfrey Higgins’ 1833 two volumes of Anacalypsis: An Attempt to Draw Aside the Veil of the Saitic Isis or an Inquiry into the Origin of Languages, Nations and Religions.
(2) A. True Ott …
He mixes historical truth with pure fiction, antisemitism, and fundamentalist Christian dogma, and his Mother Earth Minerals are a scam.
He might ask the questions, “How many Jews signed the Declaration of Independence?” and “How many Jews were in the British military and government in 1775?”
At least Ott’s info about nanotechnology is spot on.
Leuren Moret …
Some of her data is accurate, but a lot of it is “lost in space.”
She quotes Hermann Muller (1890-1967), not mentioning he was a pawn of the Rockefeller Foundation.
She fails to ask the question, “Why are so many Rockefeller geneticists (eugenicists) opposed to atomic power?”
Dr. Helen Caldicott is a better source of nuclear knowledge.
Helen Caldicott, M.D., The New Nuclear Danger, 2004, and …
… her Nuclear Power Is Not the Answer, 2007
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'Conspiracies: Winnowing the Wheat From the Chaff' have 14 comments
July 21, 2013 @ 6:01 pm atomb
My e-books are available at …
solarman111.com
I’ve had a heavy jones to create a citizen’s C.I.A. since the 1990s – the Citizens’ Intelligence Agency.
I need help to construct a truly comprehensive perspective of the Invisible Hand controlling the meta-geopolitics and uber-surveillance of the Global Plantation.
Here’s an inspiring book to help a person get an impeccable education and learn how to do research with due diligence …
Louis L’Amour, Education of a Wandering Man, 1989
July 21, 2013 @ 8:42 pm Dan
Thanks for that. I’ll check out the book you mentioned; surprised THAT one hasn’t been banned. :)
It’s funny you mention his facts on nano-tech because all the interviews I have listened to by Ott were about nanotechnology; I guess I just heard good ones and not the other stuff he’s saying. None of the talks I heard were from his own website, which looks like a rant at first glance. And the minerals never piqued my interest.
Most of the Tsarion material I have seen regarded the use of satanic symbolism in society/corporate logos, media, etc, the way cities and buildings are laid out in a hidden pattern that only those who know can recognize. Even things like the covers on the Beatles’ albums (the shoes they’re wearing/walking barefoot all has meaning, etc.) I’m sure you know this if anyone does.
Although I haven’t read it, I also felt the Irish Origins book was something I’d like to read after hearing about it.
This is interesting stuff. I’m surprised you don’t get too many hits on this sort of thing, given that it affects all of us, health nuts and SAD people alike. Ignorance is bliss, but only for a time.
July 21, 2013 @ 9:32 pm Dan
PS, another thing I found Ott to be knowledgeable on was the whole topic of mind control technology, using frequencies as weapons that can cause disease, and the digital TV movement. According to him, the whole movement to digital TV was for bandwidth issues to accommodate the future chipping of people and using all these frequencies to shape viewer’s behavior to whatever you wanted (make you passive, glued to the screen, angry, etc.) Also, don’t all digital TVs have cameras that work even when the idiot box is turned off?
I forget the name of the company he mentioned, but it was a Chinese guy who came up with this stuff back around 2000 (Hoo Loo Enterprises or something of that nature?)
July 22, 2013 @ 5:50 pm atomb
I’ll be writing at least one more blog entry along these lines, Dan. :)
July 22, 2013 @ 7:11 am Socrates Raramuri
I love Icke, Tsarion, LaViolette,, and many others. For each of these applies that i take from them the very valuable things they have to offer and then let my own data, logic, and common sense sift out what i think is wanting.
I see the cup as half full; the internet is a realm of knowledge and bs, just like real life, and it always takes intelligence and research to make heads or tails of it. Nothing new there. However, as someone who lived the pre-internet age, i just have awesome appreciation of the sources and intelligence i have at my fingertips today.
Before the internet era and today, if you desire fast results or think it’s okay to put blind faith anywhere, you’re doomed to become bitter from disappointment.
July 22, 2013 @ 5:47 pm atomb
The Internet is leading to the destruction of millions of jobs with money going to half a dozen points of centralized power … BUT IT’S WORTH IT.
The Internet might be de Chardin’s Noosphere, a way station on the Yellow Brick Wall to his Omega Point, but it has all the earmarks of Astral Las Vegas.
I love to romp in the cheap motels of the lower mind.
I’m not a phantom prisoner of brick and mortar libraries now.
July 22, 2013 @ 3:46 pm B
Hi Atom!
What can you tell me about gas pressure being held in the ascending colon? A couple Kriyas expells it immediately.
Thank you.
July 22, 2013 @ 5:53 pm atomb
Yawning and “rectal releases” work too. :)
July 22, 2013 @ 7:48 pm B
Thanks. I changed things up a lot around the full moon this time. It occurred to me after I posted that it was due to not eating in time. Duh. The methane, man. I don’t think I’ve ever smelled so much methane before.
July 22, 2013 @ 4:41 pm sebs
speaking of wheats and chaff. do you have an opinion on robert simmons and the “stones of the new consciousness”? any idea on high vibrations in general? they seem to be linked to parkinsons type disease.
and if you have more on the physics of “entities” someday i’d be so pleased.
July 22, 2013 @ 6:12 pm atomb
It’s “wheat” on his gemstone lore, and “chaff” on his metaphysical gnosis.
Many diseases mimic spiritual experiences.
For example …
Insomnia is a disease for 99% of humanity and a blessing for the other 1%. :)
July 22, 2013 @ 6:18 pm atomb
I managed a metaphysical book store for five or so years, and learned that only 1% of the metaphysical superstars we sponsored for lectures was legitimate.
Gurdjieff’s phrase for the other 99% was “the soup of the soup of the soup.”
“There would be no such thing as counterfeit gold unless there weren’t real gold somewhere,” Rumi noted.
July 23, 2013 @ 5:57 am sebs
“There would be no such thing as counterfeit gold unless there weren’t real gold somewhere,”
what a nice mantraesque for seekers
July 24, 2013 @ 4:06 pm atomb
It’s one of my favorite quotes. :)